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(26-09-2014, 11:11am)Batfink Wrote: [ -> ]Did you know that in the Qur'an Jesus is given as a Prophet and as such all that follow the word of God as told by Jesus are considered Muslims?

So by their own definitions they are killing those of the same faith.

5:17 In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah (God) is Christ the son of Mary And u know what the Islamic faith does to blasphemers (chop)
I don,t get it with religious beliefs. Is everyone so f****d up they need to prove a point by chopping heads of or condemming all to hell/fire. Its all bullshit.
Politicians and government have taken over.....
Maybe I was too obtuse?

Quoting religious versus to argue or defend is not a way to critique a faith or the actions of those abusing a faith.

As much harm as good is done by those interpreting what they read and the reasoning behind the readings.

So I am happy join in on this open discussion of Islam as long as it remains without the scripture quotations or comparisons to another religion. One mans heaven is another's hell... Or is it ones trash is another's treasure?
I'm confused...where does Santa fit in with all this god bothering...??
Santa is the result of a dyslexic satan worshiper lol
As you can see I know nothing about religion.
Although I do know that someone split the ocean and someone walked on water. Someone got locked in a cave by a big rock but got out.
Ooh and someone built a big boat and put animals on it.

I wasn't allowed to do religious education at primary school, old man reckons it was brainwashing..I could hear what they were talking about sometimes.
No abuse or swearing at each other, I'm dumbfounded. Different points of views expressed in a civil way. Good reading....and all being taken on board.
(26-09-2014, 11:29pm)Zoro Wrote: [ -> ]I wasn't allowed to do religious education at primary school, old man reckons it was brainwashing..
Sounds like a smart bloke to me Zoro.Very Happy

Just a non religious "be good to your fellow man" is all we need. Remove all the religious agendas and that would be so much easier.
I always remember Rimmer from Red Dwarf talking about his parents religious beliefs. They had to hop everywhere because their bible had a printing mistake....Faith Hop and Glory...the most important being hop...just shows what some peoples definition can lead to...
That's gold Tony...:-)
Well there are some here that dont think its a serious problem regarding islam and the associated
problems that comes with this religion , not a problem, but remember when the shit hits the fan
over here u may have a change of veiw.And i do hope that me or any of the members are not a target. Good luck and God Bless.
I don't think anyone would say it is not a problem Ray.
I for one take this as seriously as you do.
I have several news feeds and follow this stuff daily.
All a few of us are saying is it is not cut and dry. We need to have hope and an open mind.

In any case we are blowing them up again with guns, personally I feel it may make things worse but as you say time will tell.
It IS serious no one denies that at all.

I'd be interested in what you suggest would fix all this.

ps my retraction re this young fellow who was killed may still be correct.
As news reports are now saying again that he DID have another bigger knife and a flag with him, but maybe we should let the full details be looked into and disclosed when all double checked and made public by Police.

which God Ray?
I'm suspicious...!

:-)
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