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peter altas

I wanna learn to wheelie!

Can anyone give me some pointers so that I don't flip it or wreck the clutch. Really afraid of flipping it.

busababy

there is no doubt that the wheelie king is baldsy.... but freddy does em pretty kewl too... ask them...

bigshowbusa

good call on that one, ask fast freddie... While your there ask him while they call him 'flipper', as said before, it's not because he's faster than lightning
Seriously though, if your looking to learn, start from the beginning, get comfortable with the throttle fully open in first. The front should lift from about 7 grand on (depending on your weight). Do that for a while to get comfortable...
Next step is in 1st say 4-5 grand, roll off the throttle to compress the forks then snap on say about half throttle (more or less starting revs and throttle depending on your weight). That should leave you with the front getting some nice airtime. At first you'll probably shut the throttle real early and slam the front down... With practice you'll eventually get higher and higher until you figure out where the balance point is. Obviously, around the balance point you'll need to adjust the throttle to keep it there...
Word of caution, cover the rear brake especially when starting out. Alternatively, being in first gear if you shut it off, there should be enough engine braking to bring down all but the max biaggi style wheelie...
Personally, I (can't operate the rear brake) am not a fan of doing mingers in 2nd/3rd on the clutch but some more experienced campaigners ie flipper (read fast freddie) will no doubt say otherwise... Balls does some monster mingers and never touches the clutch...some do, some don't...

Trust this will get you started... "it won't happen overnight, but it wool happen..."

cheers

Fast Freddy Gassit

Ah yes, minger time
Well the bigshow basically covered it though it is hard to explain
to one who hasn't experianced it. A cop out I know but...
If you have a friend/mate/casual partner/lover/super hero that can
wheelie then watch them. Especially their body language.
You know there should be an ISO 9000 work instruction for
front wheel levitation.
Do pick a quiet, smooth road; wear all your protective gear; cover your rear brake; insurance helps a lot; and have fun.
Oh yes, almost forgot.
Get another rear sprocket with 3 extra teeth.
You'll then be asking us how to keep the damn front wheel
down
Good luck....

demeester

7 grand, front wheel lifts....

For someone like myself who rarely (very rarely) gets the front wheel off the ground, (sometimes unintentionally because I have the throttle wide), and even when I get the front wheel off the surface and it is what I intended and it is so uncontrolled and bad, with those provisos, 7 grand (even in first) is not slow to be on one wheel...

If I rode one up more often, and therefore got used to it a bit more, maybe I would be a bit more comfortable. Maybe the sprocket's the go Jo will love me if I do the bigger sprocket and shorten the wheelbase!

WARD P

I've found the busa does great(and easy) monos in 2nd gear at 80-90 kmph. Just slip the clutch a bit and up she comes.
At that speed she comes up nice and slow(and controllable), lean back and it just stays up.
Great feeling!!(the bike . . . I mean the bike!)

peter altas

Thanks for the tips.

Unfortunaely 70 to 80 kays is quicker than i wanted to learn to mono.... i'm still shit scared of flipping it as insurance is tooooo expensive and I love my Busa too much to see it smashed into little itty pieces.

When i get up some courage i'll give it a go and see what happens.

Unfortunately i'm off the bike at the moment.... dropped the postie bike on some sand on the road and have wicked gravel rash on my knees. Okay, yes I do own a postie and yes, you can stop laughing now (there goes my credibility)

I'll see how both the first gear and second gear + clutch go, but I don't have anyone to watch.

busababy

you don't have to do 70 to 80 kays to get the busa to mono, it will lift sky high at 40 (even with my 110+ kg) with a snap of the throttle cos it's so powerful, but to keep it there you have to continue holding on the throttle and you know how quick the speed climbs in just a few seconds....

you biggest problem is not to get the busa to mono, i think that part is easy, but not to get caught doing it by the boys in blue that could be another issue, i get the distinct impression they are not too supportive...... :">

i love to mono, but the concept of getting sprung is always at the back of mind....

take care
les

Beestroyer

Second gear mono's are much smoother and slower than first gear. You can do it without the cluch to. Sit back in the seat, 100k's and close/open the throttle. Remember the faster your going the more balance you have!

peter altas

Thanks heaps guys, I'll give it a go in the coming weeks. Hopefully by the next group ride i'll be pulling mingers all over the shop (not as often as Ron Balls though )

Hopeing to keep it upright though in the meantime!
Peter Altas
BUSA-1

demeester

Cheesy grin of success! Thanks, bee...

peter altas

if success can be counted as a mega 2 inches, then I've succeded. Still a bit hesitant to rip open the throttle
(One flip and my 'Busa riding days could well be over )

Will keep trying..... may need some professional tutoring (hint, hint)

peter altas

S U C C E S S !!!

All the way from Kilmore to Craigieburn I tried to lift the front in second with no luck (just fork extension).

Exit the Hume at Craigieburn, taking off in first, close/open throttle at 70 kays and whoppo.... my first (real - postie bike doesn't count) minger.

And sooooo smooth, just thought it was another full fork extension until the front came down.... and also smoothly.

What an awesome feeling! And I know the two onlookers appreciated it also!

Thanks heaps guys for all your input. May this not be the last. See how we go tomorrow now, and then it'll just be keeping it up through the transition into second!

IT'S MINGER TIME !


Peter Altas
BUSA-1

bigshowbusa

good to hear peter
it's advisable to get used to it for about 6 months before you even think of shifting on one wheel, the front needs to be VERY high so it's quite difficult to do in first...
There are enough flipper's out there already...


cheers
bigshow