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Quickshifters? - the goat - 29-05-2012
Hey people, I'm looking to purchase a quickshifter but blown away by the options. We are running a Microtech Mt4 if that helps. Any ideas?
RE: Quickshifters? - BikerBoy - 29-05-2012
I use a Translogic QS4 http://www.translogicuk.com/quickshifters.htm which is top shelf stuff and has its own independant ecu so wont affect your Mt4.
They also make a powershifter if that's more your thing http://www.translogicuk.com/powershifters.php
Pingel air shifters are another good choice going by what others have recommended in the past http://www.pingelonline.com/air_shifter.htm
RE: Quickshifters? - 2001gixxer - 29-05-2012
Great thread Goat!
I had the opportunity to test ride a new tuono that had a quickshifter.
It was quite a different experience.
What the salesman said as I was about to take off is that "the quickshifter is best used wine over 4,000 rpm"
Is this normal for other bikes / quickshifters?
Is this money well spent if no plans for the track or strip?
RE: Quickshifters? - the goat - 30-05-2012
(29-05-2012, 08:21pm)BikerBoy Wrote: I use a Translogic QS4 http://www.translogicuk.com/quickshifters.htm which is top shelf stuff and has its own independant ecu so wont affect your Mt4.Thanks for that. Do you think it was worth the expense and effort? And does it change your times much?
They also make a powershifter if that's more your thing http://www.translogicuk.com/powershifters.php
Pingel air shifters are another good choice going by what others have recommended in the past http://www.pingelonline.com/air_shifter.htm
The bike is a chameleon and is mainly street used, so I'm not thinking of an Air shifter.
RE: Quickshifters? - BikerBoy - 30-05-2012
(30-05-2012, 07:04am)the goat Wrote:(29-05-2012, 08:21pm)BikerBoy Wrote: I use a Translogic QS4 http://www.translogicuk.com/quickshifters.htm which is top shelf stuff and has its own independant ecu so wont affect your Mt4.Thanks for that. Do you think it was worth the expense and effort? And does it change your times much?
They also make a powershifter if that's more your thing http://www.translogicuk.com/powershifters.php
Pingel air shifters are another good choice going by what others have recommended in the past http://www.pingelonline.com/air_shifter.htm
The bike is a chameleon and is mainly street used, so I'm not thinking of an Air shifter.
Yeah, it wasn't a cheap item (about $600), I knew it would be fun and gimmicky at first but the novelty just never wore off. I'm as impressed with it today as when I installed it just over a year ago. To me, that's money well spent. They are plug n play, so Install was fairly easy with about 1.5hr from box to bike. I kept my stock shift rod and had to shorten it for the sensor so it took a bit longer.
As for times, you will definately see better results but not much...it is just a quickshifter. What I found is that the shifts are so smooth and quick that the RPM's simply dont have time to drop during a shift. It does take a bit of trial and error though to get the interupt settings at the optimal rate, but once done ...it's full throttle riding that power curve all the way.
I will be installing one of these on any future bikes I get.
RE: Quickshifters? - Buhjones - 30-05-2012
OK Silly question.....
I can understand how a quickshifter works on the gear lever. Piston moves forward or back depending on which button you push. But how does the system integrate into the clutch?
RE: Quickshifters? - Maj - 30-05-2012
No cyl on a quickshifter
ecu editor lets you do it without plugins
Basically you have a switch inline with your shift shaft that senses strain as you activate the shift lever , this tells the ecu to cut the ign and fuel for a split second so the shift can happen
no backing off , no clutch
Boostbysmith or cordona are plug and play
RE: Quickshifters? - simmo - 30-05-2012
Have a good look at this site
I run the air shifter on my via the ECU / horn button
http://www.cycle-tek.com/html/ecu.html
(30-05-2012, 12:36pm)Buhjones Wrote: OK Silly question.....
I can understand how a quickshifter works on the gear lever. Piston moves forward or back depending on which button you push. But how does the system integrate into the clutch?
No silly questions if you don't ask you wont know
By killing the ecu for a split second it allows for the gears to change with out touching the clutch lever, good for drags / track for super fast gear changes with out backing off the throttle or pulling the clutch in
RE: Quickshifters? - Buhjones - 31-05-2012
(30-05-2012, 08:09pm)simmo Wrote: Have a good look at this site
I run the air shifter on my via the ECU / horn button
http://www.cycle-tek.com/html/ecu.html
(30-05-2012, 12:36pm)Buhjones Wrote: OK Silly question.....
I can understand how a quickshifter works on the gear lever. Piston moves forward or back depending on which button you push. But how does the system integrate into the clutch?
No silly questions if you don't ask you wont know
By killing the ecu for a split second it allows for the gears to change with out touching the clutch lever, good for drags / track for super fast gear changes with out backing off the throttle or pulling the clutch in
Thanks simmo.
SO if I understand correctly you are essentially creating a false neutral by killing the bike for a few milliseconds, then getting it into gear and back on the power again.
Are you then restricted to always using this system or can you still use the old left foot/left hand combo for casual riding?
RE: Quickshifters? - simmo - 31-05-2012
(31-05-2012, 08:35am)Buhjones Wrote:(30-05-2012, 08:09pm)simmo Wrote: Have a good look at this site
I run the air shifter on my via the ECU / horn button
http://www.cycle-tek.com/html/ecu.html
(30-05-2012, 12:36pm)Buhjones Wrote: OK Silly question.....
I can understand how a quickshifter works on the gear lever. Piston moves forward or back depending on which button you push. But how does the system integrate into the clutch?
No silly questions if you don't ask you wont know
By killing the ecu for a split second it allows for the gears to change with out touching the clutch lever, good for drags / track for super fast gear changes with out backing off the throttle or pulling the clutch in
Thanks simmo.
SO if I understand correctly you are essentially creating a false neutral by killing the bike for a few milliseconds, then getting it into gear and back on the power again.
Are you then restricted to always using this system or can you still use the old left foot/left hand combo for casual riding?
Old left foot can be still used any time with the air shifter also
RE: Quickshifters? - BikerBoy - 31-05-2012
Translogic QS is the same. Normal clutch operation and shifting works like normal, so if you were just cruising you don't have to use the QS if you don't want to. I think mine also works from 2500rpm's so even if you were just rollin' along you can still use the QS. On the street I'm using a 50/50 QS vs normal shift.
This is the setup on mine. First pic is the actual sensor and second pic is the 'on the fly' dial to adjust the interupt settings while riding. Full programming is done through the QS's ecu using the shifter to set the timing.
RE: Quickshifters? - the goat - 31-05-2012
Thanks for all the replies. Now the biggest decision I have to make is what to tell the wife broke on the TRUCK so I can find the money to get one!
