Anyone else having a problem with corner clearance? I've jammed the 'pegs into the road on numerous occasions, grinding away at the hero knobs (why are they so long??). It makes me feel like a hero, but do it hard enough and it throws me off-line mid corner. I've also scraped my boots more times than I can remember.
Without the hero knobs would the fairing scrape?
The confidence this bike gives me makes me feel like I can do anything, until I scrape. How can I solve this problem? i try to hang off the bike as much as I can.
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Yeh, hanging off will give the bike more turn and more clearance. Get into an Advanced Riding course asap... helped me heaps!
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Get rid of the hero pegs - thats the FIRST thing I do to any new bike, WTF they are even there for is beyond my comprehension?!?!? Rearsets help as well by giving you a couple more inches although then (as I discovered recently) you may start scraping your fairing!
As Pan said (and I have ranted sooo many times before) do a effing course (all of you out there FFS) and learn all about cornering - you dont have to be a racer, hero, fast rider just go with open mind and I dont care how long you have been riding if you open your brain you will learn something, its invaluable. I have been riding for 35+ years, raced when I was a teenager but man thigns have changed, I have gotten older (even you young whipper snippers will too), forgotten things, bikes have changed etc etc def worth the $$ spent - everyone I have convinced to do it has come away a better rider including myself and I thought I was pretty quick (actually I know I am heh) but thats not the point - you go to learn to be a safer, better more aware rider and thats a good thing
argh dont get me started ... ARGGHHGHHHHHH
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I would keep an eye for fairing damage once you take the hero knobs off, plenty of rider have come home with scraped fairing even with them on..
Good to hear you are enjoying the bike, they are a versatile beast, often hard to replace which is why people keep on coming back.
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abusa Wrote:I would keep an eye for fairing damage once you take the hero knobs off, plenty of rider have come home with scraped fairing even with them on..
Good to hear you are enjoying the bike, they are a versatile beast, often hard to replace which is why people keep on coming back. Ditto ditto, get id of hero pegs. I think they stick them on to keep you from trying too hard. Not a bad idea for learners, but as you go faster around corners and you obviously do, they make a horrible noise and worse, are actually dangerous!
Sit off the side and awy you go, and do a course!!!
Shit, sound like your mother eh?
Mind you, when off, you can scrape the fairing, but that's life and not so unsettling in mid corner...so safer! That's all that matters.
I say that because there's been three riders die here in Perth in 3 weeks! They probably weren't hitting hero pegs and falling off, but why add more danger to an already seriously dangerous past time eh?
We need every thing in our favour not to get hurt or killed!
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I don't understand, to get the pegs to scrape on the road, you have to be too far over and they fold up when they hit anyway.
If you are riding off the seat and still scraping the heros, you will soon be scraping your arse off a tree or fence.
"If time catches up with you. You're going too slow!"
Regards BUSGO
BUSGO Wrote:I don't understand, to get the pegs to scrape on the road, you have to be too far over and they fold up when they hit anyway.
If you are riding off the seat and still scraping the heros, you will soon be scraping your arse off a tree or fence.
Why does scraping the hero knobs mean ur going to bin it? your courage would run out way before the rubber does...
Bugso, just out of interest, how do ur pegs fold up with ur feet on them??
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I personally think the road is the wrong place to be scraping your pegs off. Do it on a track so if you come a cropper you aren't likely to hurt anyone but yourself. Too many potholes and crap on the roads round here. just my 2 cents
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Pommie Wrote:I personally think the road is the wrong place to be scraping your pegs off. Do it on a track so if you come a cropper you aren't likely to hurt anyone but yourself. Too many potholes and crap on the roads round here. just my 2 cents i'm with you!!! the track is the place for that kinda riding.....but again thats just me and my old age kicking in!
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quote Ferg "Bugso, just out of interest, how do ur pegs fold up with ur feet on them??"
Well if you are riding with your toes on the pegs and they touch down, you feel them scrape, you lift the weight off the peg and they fold up. If you don't lift your weight off them, they wear away.
They are only there as a lean limit warning. Nothing else.
"If time catches up with you. You're going too slow!"
Regards BUSGO
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BUSGO Wrote:If you don't lift your weight off them, they wear away.
Lifting your weight off the peg while scraping those peg-feelers would be a quick way to unsettle the suspension, lose your line and end up on that tree/fence.
I'm guessing/hoping they're pretty cheap to replace. If not, I'll be scrapping them altogether as my left one is quite worn. Apparently I like left bends more than right bends as the right one is hardly touched...
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TimF Wrote:BUSGO Wrote:If you don't lift your weight off them, they wear away.
Lifting your weight off the peg while scraping those peg-feelers would be a quick way to unsettle the suspension, lose your line and end up on that tree/fence.
I'm guessing/hoping they're pretty cheap to replace. If not, I'll be scrapping them altogether as my left one is quite worn. Apparently I like left bends more than right bends as the right one is hardly touched...
Ferg and TimF I am not having a go at you so please don't take this the wrong way but it does sound like a lack of experience showing through as has been said many times go do a cornering course or an advanced riders course I know it does cost a bit but they are truly worth every cent.
You can be the best rider in the world and still come unstuck even a set of race qualify tyre's won't stick to oil or gravel and you never know where it will be.
I have done both courses and I came unstuck at only 40kph and almost lost my legs in the bargin (check out my xray's on almost back thread) so please please leave that stuff for a track day.
That black stuff is bloody hard if you loose it on the road there is no run off or gravel trap to save you it isn't any fun in a hospital bed and wheel chairs don't handle and no where near as fun as been on a bike.
Ride safe lads
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If you are cornering to the left, your weight should be on the right peg, not the left and visa versa.
You should have no weight at all on the peg on the inside of the turn.
Have you noticed the GP riders take their foot off the peg altogether and hang it out to keep the balance in a tight turn?
"If time catches up with you. You're going too slow!"
Regards BUSGO
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BusaJim Wrote:Ferg and TimF I am not having a go at you so please don't take this the wrong way but it does sound like a lack of experience showing through as has been said many times go do a cornering course or an advanced riders course I know it does cost a bit but they are truly worth every cent.
You can be the best rider in the world and still come unstuck even a set of race qualify tyre's won't stick to oil or gravel and you never know where it will be.
I have done both courses and I came unstuck at only 40kph and almost lost my legs in the bargin (check out my xray's on almost back thread) so please please leave that stuff for a track day.
That black stuff is bloody hard if you loose it on the road there is no run off or gravel trap to save you it isn't any fun in a hospital bed and wheel chairs don't handle and no where near as fun as been on a bike.
Ride safe lads
Jim
Nah you're right mate - say your piece. It doesn't fall on deaf ears either. There has been too much serious motorcycle carnage in my family and I'd like to discontinue that trend. These courses sound like a great start...
Busgo - had a play this morning and I feel as though I am putting fairly even pressure on both pegs when cornering. My outside leg is dug hard into the tank and the inside leg/torso is being used to sharpen the turn as necessary. But I do reckon I am putting reasonably even pressure on both pegs... so I'll see how I can go about improving my technique.
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BUSGO Wrote:If you are cornering to the left, your weight should be on the right peg, not the left and visa versa.
You should have no weight at all on the peg on the inside of the turn.
TimF Wrote:I am putting fairly even pressure on both pegs when cornering. My outside leg is dug hard into the tank and the inside leg/torso is being used to sharpen the turn as necessary. But I do reckon I am putting reasonably even pressure on both pegs... so I'll see how I can go about improving my technique.
I was told to put even pressure on both pegs but that doesn't mean Busgo is wrong or Tim is right. I think threads like this are valuable but different techniques work for different riding styles, different bike set-ups and different road surfaces...
Be careful of taking advice from experienced riders... they say "I've been riding for 50 years", but they may have been doing the wrong thing for 49 of them! 
I think Jim said it best:
"do a cornering course or an advanced riders course I know it does cost a bit but they are truly worth every cent" ...that way your instructor can give you tips to suit YOUR riding style...
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