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(06-04-2011, 09:13pm)fasterfaster Wrote: You will have to hook and SDS unit to it and retrieve stored codes. It will tell you date and time it faulted and also all parameters at the time of faulting
I think you may have a problem there Milena a PC doesn't overide your ECU it just bends the signal .............. 
could i get the code you think if i run it till light comes on then jump the wires while running? as i aint got a sds unit thingy in my garage
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(06-04-2011, 08:47pm)BLACKZOOK Wrote: K8 CODES
c00 none
c12 crankshaft positions sensor, pickup coil signal, signal generator
c13 intake air pressure sensor #2, for front cylinder
c14 throttle position sensor
c15 engine coolant temp sensor
c17 intake air pressure sensor #1 for rear cylinder
c21 intake air temp sensor
c23 tip over sensor
c24 ignition signal, coil #1 for rear cylinder
c25 ignition signal, coil #2 for front cylinder
c28 secondary throttle valve actuator
c29 secondary throttle valve position sensor
c31 gear position signal switch
c32 injector signal #1 for rear cylinder
c33 injector signal #2 for front cylinder
c41 fuel pump control system, fuel pump, fuel pump relay
c42 ignition switch signal, anti theft
c44 heated oxygen sensor
c49 pair control solenoid valve
Sounds like the same problem http://www.busanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2141
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thanks heaps gives me some direction anyway
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(06-04-2011, 09:50pm)SEABREEZE Wrote: (06-04-2011, 09:13pm)fasterfaster Wrote: You will have to hook and SDS unit to it and retrieve stored codes. It will tell you date and time it faulted and also all parameters at the time of faulting
I think you may have a problem there Milena a PC doesn't overide your ECU it just bends the signal ..............
could i get the code you think if i run it till light comes on then jump the wires while running? as i aint got a sds unit thingy in my garage
That may get code but it's not advised to connect and diconnect dealer mode with ignition on. Ring a dealer and ask them how much to do a code read on your bike ? Specify that you want an SDS code check done.
Very few people apart from dealers have an SDS (Suzuki Diagnostic System) tool as Suzuki won't sell it to other than dealers 
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i had my F1 light come up after i put new levers on the clutch lever would not operate the cut off sensor to start the bike so i bridged the sensor and after about 5mins riding i woultd get the F1 light i took it to the dealer and he put it on the computer and the code c14 came up (idling to high) so i went home and modified the clutch lever so the cut off switch would work and haven,t had any trouble since sensitive things these ECUs. i get on well with our dealer so it cost nothing for them to hook up and find the problem shame couldn,t hook another 100 horse,s out of it that way.
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You can leave it bridged and ride to get the fault or if you can get the hump off while running do it after the fault has been initiated doesn't matter which,but displayed faults are live so you can't turn it off , or you will need a sds to read logged faults ......... if you have a length of wire and toggle switch you can make it switchable ..
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(06-04-2011, 08:47pm)BLACKZOOK Wrote: K8 CODES
c00 none
c12 crankshaft positions sensor, pickup coil signal, signal generator
c13 intake air pressure sensor #2, for front cylinder
c14 throttle position sensor
c15 engine coolant temp sensor
c17 intake air pressure sensor #1 for rear cylinder
c21 intake air temp sensor
c23 tip over sensor
c24 ignition signal, coil #1 for rear cylinder
c25 ignition signal, coil #2 for front cylinder
c28 secondary throttle valve actuator
c29 secondary throttle valve position sensor
c31 gear position signal switch
c32 injector signal #1 for rear cylinder
c33 injector signal #2 for front cylinder
c41 fuel pump control system, fuel pump, fuel pump relay
c42 ignition switch signal, anti theft
c44 heated oxygen sensor
c49 pair control solenoid valve
Sounds like the same problem http://www.busanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2141
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i got code c40 coming up, but i cant see it on your list
(07-04-2011, 06:08am)grumpy Wrote: i had my F1 light come up after i put new levers on the clutch lever would not operate the cut off sensor to start the bike so i bridged the sensor and after about 5mins riding i woultd get the F1 light i took it to the dealer and he put it on the computer and the code c14 came up (idling to high) so i went home and modified the clutch lever so the cut off switch would work and haven,t had any trouble since sensitive things these ECUs. i get on well with our dealer so it cost nothing for them to hook up and find the problem shame couldn,t hook another 100 horse,s out of it that way.
just read this, i did just put new levers on though bike had no problem starting and i got code c40 anyway
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Some one has probably adjusted throttle bodies without holding and then reseting ICS solenoid afterwards. Throttle body synch will need to be redone as ICS effects readings ( it moves during synching ) and then reset ICS and all shall be good. 
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(07-04-2011, 10:22am)fasterfaster Wrote: Some one has probably adjusted throttle bodies without holding and then reseting ICS solenoid afterwards. Throttle body synch will need to be redone as ICS effects readings ( it moves during synching ) and then reset ICS and all shall be good. i rang suzuki... wouldnt help, rang procycles wouldnt help, went to sydney city lane cove couldnt help but called sydney city kogarah, and after he flicked through book said C40 is idle speed control valve
is that what you refer to above? i remember him saying ISC valve and said it could either be cleaned or replaced and can cause bike to idle excessivly high, its running fine though, idles at 1000rpm, is that normal?
would you suggest just booking into to dealer or can somone who does dyno ect do it easliy, local shop said he can hook bik eup to computer to diagnose problems but he just didnt have time when i went there this morning
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On Gen II the idle is controlled by an idle speed control valve. It basically is an air bleed solenoid that turns on and off and is ECU controlled thus maintaining idle. There are several aftermarket units that will hold this valve static whilst throttle body adjustment is performed. From what I know at this stage only the SDS can reset the base idle speed. 1000 rpm is a bit low actually but then the tacho is not accurate in any case and if you where to read the rpm in the software may find it at 1125 / 1150 rpm.
As said you need the throttle bodies to be resynched with the ICS held and then the ICS base position reset. I'd have the throttle bodies re checked because if the procedure was not done with the ICS held it will not be correct. All Suzuki dealers are supposed to have this tool. Or come up to QLD lol
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(07-04-2011, 06:16pm)fasterfaster Wrote: On Gen II the idle is controlled by an idle speed control valve. It basically is an air bleed solenoid that turns on and off and is ECU controlled thus maintaining idle. There are several aftermarket units that will hold this valve static whilst throttle body adjustment is performed. From what I know at this stage only the SDS can reset the base idle speed. 1000 rpm is a bit low actually but then the tacho is not accurate in any case and if you where to read the rpm in the software may find it at 1125 / 1150 rpm.
As said you need the throttle bodies to be resynched with the ICS held and then the ICS base position reset. I'd have the throttle bodies re checked because if the procedure was not done with the ICS held it will not be correct. All Suzuki dealers are supposed to have this tool. Or come up to QLD lol
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Just want to say hayabusa club members are legends, Dealers are assholes
i solved problem, i remember seeing someone had a problem with starting bike after they changed over to aftermarket from stock levers and a code coming up, well i checked mine and did a test using stock levers and then my ST machine ones and the clutch lever was hitting back of switch causing it not to disengage fully so problem solved
Pro Cycles at hornsby are cockheads and refused to offer the info about this code and winged about dealers going broke (and yet they charge $100 an hour) and that i should have bought my bike off him and not wanting to give me any info just that i must bring bike in, same with Lane cove sydney city cycles, i had the code and they pretty much seem to guard this info and try to keep it secret and he basically said after i got shirty that its a business and were here to make money
well if someone cant spend all of 5 minutes like Brad at Sydney City Kogaragh did to help out someone over the phone then i dont ever want to set foot in the door at these other dealers
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