Cop lane splits - Legal?

[m8ee]

Stop ya bitchin!

HA HA HA - LMFAO, You sure are one angry dude Grunter

[GRUNTMAX]

Unpredictable Anger is one of the major resulting medical effects of a Frontal Cerebral Brain Injury---however---I was not angry when I wrote that post. I'm just an old oilfield diver with a brain injury that happens to know a bit about Mobile Pulse Doppler Radar Units but previously only knew about Civil Marine Radar from one of my other past professiions that the drunk also took away from me. I like to stand up for my legal rights too, even if I couldn't afford a lawyer on the day due to a drunk driver. Next time, when I can afford a lawyer, I'll skin the cat, and eat eat it for dinner too.
Good to see Heidi threw her 2 bobs worth in. In fact, she's probably also spoken to Bruce by now & her new Ventura Rack is on the way free of charge.
Cheers

[m8ee]

Gotta admire a bloke that stands up for himself, don't take my post the wrong way, I think you are an angry man, but who could blame you, I'd be pretty pissed off too I would imagine. Glad it didn't happen to me ( yet ).

[DjPete]

Keep grunting Gruntmax.
Nothing wrong with venting some legit anger.
R E S P E C T

[ROD]

Unpredictable Anger is one of the major resulting medical effects of a Frontal Cerebral Brain Injury---however---I was not angry when I wrote that post. I'm just an old oilfield diver with a brain injury that happens to know a bit about Mobile Pulse Doppler Radar Units but previously only knew about Civil Marine Radar from one of my other past professiions that the drunk also took away from me. I like to stand up for my legal rights too, even if I couldn't afford a lawyer on the day due to a drunk driver. Next time, when I can afford a lawyer, I'll skin the cat, and eat eat it for dinner too.
Good to see Heidi threw her 2 bobs worth in. In fact, she's probably also spoken to Bruce by now & her new Ventura Rack is on the way free of charge.
Cheers

The Drunk Bitch might have taken half your life But there is no point in giving the other half to the court system, as that would be a real waste i agree stick up for your rights but dont let them consume you.

Stop ya bitchin!

And dont forget some of your life is going to the Archives

[Louwai]

But check with Vic roads as all states are diferent Qld has just stoped it

It's always been illegal Rod.
There's no road rule that specifically makes note of "Lane Splitting" but if you read several other road rule in conjuction with eachother, it effectivley makes lane splitting illegal.
I looked into this a while back when the issue came up on here.

I don't recall all of the rules, but the main one was;
1) You are allowed to have 2 vehicles side-by-side in 1 lane BUT there must be a minimum of 1m between them.
(So when lane splitting, you are beside a car but there is definately not 1m space between you & the car) This rule by itself basically wipes out lane splitting.

2) If passing another vehicle within a lane (as well as the 1m distance noted above) you can only pass on the right hand side.
Seeing as most drivers drive to the right side, there's rarly enough room to pass on the right without going over the white line. Which, if you go over the line you are effectivly on the left of the vehicle in theother lane. + you just crossed into another lane without indicating.

These particular rules have been in force in Qld for several yrs.

[Toecutter]

you can only pass on the right hand side.

This is the main issue in Vic and the only real ammo the cops have imo.

I reccon that if you are sensible and only do it when the traffic is stationary then it is quite practical for all drivers/riders in the area. (read: less traffic).

What spoils for the rest of us is when "those" wankers race through the traffic thinking that they are in the Moto GP and don't give any thought that there might be inexperienced drivers/mothers or fathers on their way home/a family of four/insert ............. here, and they more than often scare the sh#t out of them. Thus creating an unsafe environment for other motorists.

I can give you an idea example too. When on the way home from a family gathering last Sunday, I saw four bikes littered with christmas decorations FLY past me through traffic, and I mean traffic. And these were seperate incidences (i.e. not riding together). All I could think was, thanks guys, your f#cking it up for the rest of us!
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If we could encourage our fellow riders to pull their collective heads in then we wouldn't have to worry so much about those grey lines such as lane splitting. I know that common sense aint that common, but they could at least try to be smart about how they ride in the city...

My two cents.

[ROD]

This is the main issue in Vic and the only real ammo the cops have imo.

I reccon that if you are sensible and only do it when the traffic is stationary then it is quite practical for all drivers/riders in the area. (read: less traffic).

What spoils for the rest of us is when "those" wankers race through the traffic thinking that they are in the Moto GP and don't give any thought that there might be inexperienced drivers/mothers or fathers on their way home/a family of four/insert ............. here, and they more than often scare the sh#t out of them. Thus creating an unsafe environment for other motorists.

I can give you an idea example too. When on the way home from a family gathering last Sunday, I saw four bikes littered with christmas decorations FLY past me through traffic, and I mean traffic. And these were seperate incidences (i.e. not riding together). All I could think was, thanks guys, your f#cking it up for the rest of us!

If we could encourage our fellow riders to pull their collective heads in then we wouldn't have to worry so much about those grey lines such as lane splitting. I know that common sense aint that common, but they could at least try to be smart about how they ride in the city...

My two cents.

[NEMESIS]

Unpredictable Anger is one of the major resulting medical effects of a Frontal Cerebral Brain Injury---however---I was not angry when I wrote that post. I'm just an old oilfield diver with a brain injury that happens to know a bit about Mobile Pulse Doppler Radar Units but previously only knew about Civil Marine Radar from one of my other past professiions that the drunk also took away from me. I like to stand up for my legal rights too, even if I couldn't afford a lawyer on the day due to a drunk driver. Next time, when I can afford a lawyer, I'll skin the cat, and eat eat it for dinner too.
Good to see Heidi threw her 2 bobs worth in. In fact, she's probably also spoken to Bruce by now & her new Ventura Rack is on the way free of charge.
Cheers

ALways liked your style gruntmax

Police are just people who used to get picked on in
highschool an are now running amuck out there being
the bullies

They need there badges to be real men.
Take the badge off an try have a go

[Toecutter]

They need there badges to be real men.
Take the badge off an try have a go

They're also the people you call when something terrible (heaven forbid) happens to your family/you have an accident/ your house is broken into............
Doesn't sound as rebelious as your statement but we actually need to understand that without these folk, we're F#cked.
Nothing personal, just understand that they are not all bad, just as not all bikers are bad...

[GRUNTMAX]

They need there badges to be real men.
Take the badge off an try have a go

They're also the people you call when something terrible (heaven forbid) happens to your family/you have an accident/ your house is broken into............
Doesn't sound as rebelious as your statement but we actually need to understand that without these folk, we're F#cked.
Nothing personal, just understand that they are not all bad, just as not all bikers are bad...

Yes, they are a neccessary evil, however, it would be better if they were more properly trained in the use of their Mobile Pulse Doppler Radar Devices & stood by the Australia Standards on the use of these devices that the NSW Police Department are in fact signatories to.
Many years ago, I was walking along Manly Beach Front outside the Steyne Hotel. I was not drunk having only drunk one beer that night that the Australian Government (Drug Dealers) had made lots of tax on. On that night, the so called "21 Division" was having one of their clean up nights. I had these 2 monster pigs grab me & throw me in the "pig wagon" when I was just walking along minding my own business. Gets to the Manly bacon station. At the desk and the copper says "Right, you've got $10 dollars here" & I says "No I haven't, look, I've got 30, look 20 & 10". About an hour later 2 pigs came to the cell door. "Is GRUNTMAX there". So I goes to the cell door, they gets me outside. One of these monster pigs gets me down on the deck & holds me down & the other one beat the shi* out of me" All for a lousy $20 bucs that they never succeeded in steeling off me. The next morning as I was checking out & getting my $30 back, I looked at the Chief Pig and says to him. "Just like my old man who fought the Japs for your fuc*en freedom always said to me, "Once a copper, never a man".
Sorry, you never forget. First impressions never go away.

[MrsTony]

Yeah I suppose its like the council parking warden, parked in the postal zone, giving out the parking ticket

[ROD]

They need there badges to be real men.
Take the badge off an try have a go

They're also the people you call when something terrible (heaven forbid) happens to your family/you have an accident/ your house is broken into............
Doesn't sound as rebelious as your statement but we actually need to understand that without these folk, we're F#cked.
Nothing personal, just understand that they are not all bad, just as not all bikers are bad...

Verry true just ask yourself have you or someone you no have ever called on the police

[NEMESIS]

They need there badges to be real men.
Take the badge off an try have a go

They're also the people you call when something terrible (heaven forbid) happens to your family/you have an accident/ your house is broken into............
Doesn't sound as rebelious as your statement but we actually need to understand that without these folk, we're F#cked.
Nothing personal, just understand that they are not all bad, just as not all bikers are bad...

I was waiting for this argument.
An im glad you brought it up.

Once my car broke down,didnt have my phone on me,
was pissing down rain an thundering at night,found a cop car
at a set of lights,asked them if they could drop me off at
home which was 9km away,they said no an just sat there at the lights.
Yeh thanks.

Our whole street except a few houses,got robbed,neighbour
called the cops,they didnt come til 3 days later.
Yeh thanks.

I wont mention other stories which are abit much.
Although its odd how if you misbehave on your bike or in your car,
they can impound your bike or take your car,an if you do it
enough,theyl take it an send it to the crusher.
But junkies are allowed to shoot up in there homes,in front of there
kids,throw
needles in kindergarten sandpits an wherever they please,but you dont see there houses an stuff
get taken off them do you?

You want something done right,you do it yourself,
like hell il ever ask the police for anything.

[AvgJoe]

Whatup peeps?

quote out of vic riders handbook "Avoid lane splitting, which is riding between moving vehicles."

Should clear this up for victorians.

Dont you guys read the handbook????? i know i didn't till now.