Message from a hard working Aussie

[BUSGO]

I like the gist of this discussion and I could write a book on the subject of "How Life Sucks For the Working Class" and another called "Oxygen Thieves on Welfare."

I have no sympathy for suckholes I'm afraid.

[Ozboc]

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Top post,sorry to hear bout your son.
You left roys too early yesterday an missed me
talking bout how shit the younger generation is these days...
An how they have no respect.
Back in your day,you tried to do anything to a teacher an youd
cop a metal ruler in the face.
These days kids throw there chairs at teachers an they
cop a suspension or expelled.
Moral of the story,kids have no respect or
dont get taught it.
Im telling you,they need a few good backhanders.
An i dont want to hear its wrong etc,i copped it
real bad,an im not saying its completely right,but it
taught me its far better to stay on the right track...
Then the wrong one.

I do agree , when i was in school we were in constant fear of getting the Cane , meaning that we never back chatted a teacher , never questioned and ALWAYS done what was asked of us , as mentioned kids now have no discipline.

I am currently living in a mixed family situation ( 3 of her kids living with us and my boy which i see every 2 weeks ) I have set various rules including no back chatting - jobs for pocket money ( dont do the jobs loose money form your pocket money. not enough pocket money to buy petrol -- no trail bike riding for them -- ect ) teaching them the value of good hard work and the rewards that it brings and not expecting things handed to you when you winge for long enough

They bitch and moan now that the rules are to hard and that its easier at dads place because he has no rules and they get to do what ever they want and just play playstation all day when in his care. What they dont realise is he does not give a shit about them. lets them do what ever they want because he could not be bothered with them does not take them anywhere or do anything with them. The eldest one even told his dad to "f&*k off" the other day when his dad called him a "stupid prick" for not being able to read right. he has never dared to say anything like that to me. WHY? respect ! -- with me they are rewarded for good things and encouraged when they do wrong , treated accordingly ..... Long and short - there is to much emphasis on school teachers to do the moral teachings of children and parents/ guardians should step up and take responsibility

Boc

[copperjosh]

Too right, teachers are their to educate, not be the fathers/mothers of children.

Kids now can too easily bring out the "touch me & i'll sue you" crap on teachers and what not.

In reality, the kids don't know squat, but they love being little dicks and they know they can get away with it.

Even though we had no formal physical punishment when I went to school, I could vouch for it being a good way to keep kids in line.

And one strange thing I noticed was through my last years of high school, I noticed that each new year of year 7 kids got ruder, more disrespectful & generally more brat-like. They all thought they were untouchable.

I always got a smack when I was young if I pulled out of line & I still turned out sane.

Not sure if the bigger issue is that society is trying to protect everyone from themselves or what, but it seems more and more as the years go by, despite the less strict rules in school, rules everywhere else are getting tighter. There are so many bloody little things that I am noticing change now. From terrorist attacks making everyone paranoid with security, etc. I just worry that the world detailed in books like Brave New World & Blade Runner might actually be a reality some time down the track. Scary thought.

[GlenTC]

There are still tons of good kids, parents and general folks around. They are just quiet. There has always been shitheads around. Just now they get more air time because people listen and try to help them out, rather than going upside. I am sure you have seen that ad about kids watching the parents. Where the old man is cracking Mum, and the kid is there having a shot too? Thats pretty accurate (disturbingly so). The kids are just what values we pass on. I have dozens of kids around my street, good parents all around. All are friendly, play together well and act respectful to each other without stalag supervision. They will probably all grow up to be good parents themselves with happy lives. We will never know them because they will fade into the scenery.

(I apoligise for the thread jack. Just a passing thought. I just hear similar things about young soldiers all the time. In reality, a majority will give the old fellas a serious run for their money having worked closely with a couple of generations.)

[NEMESIS]

-Im glad you agree boc

Im with copperjosh,i havent seen the cane days but
its easy to see that the younger generation arent
really respectfull.
Dont get me wrong,my year level is still classed as
the worst year ever to have graduated from that school
so my brother tells me haha.

-It is clear glentc that you dont live in st albans

[GlenTC]

Pucka Bro, Pucka. Done a stint in Liverpool too. lol. I have 'stepping out' uggies and the 'good' thongs.

[NEMESIS]

Pucka as in puckapaniel?
Man im slow,avoid abreviations when talking to my dumb arse lol

Good thongs?
Gone toorak on me bloke?

[Louwai]

I am sure you have seen that ad about kids watching the parents. Where the old man is cracking Mum, and the kid is there having a shot too? Thats pretty accurate (disturbingly so). The kids are just what values we pass on.

Damn right, kids watch & learn.

My ex-wife left me before my son was born. (hence he has never lived with me). The guy she married treated him & his older sister like someone elses kids. They both grew up in a really shitty, low income, relatively violent neighbourhood.
AND the ex did everything she could to keep them away from me.
I have only been in contact with my 2 oldest kids for the last 11mths, after not seeing my oldest for 18yrs & never having seen my son.
My daughter has grown up with an amazing attitude to life & other people considering the growing environment, but my son has taken on all the shitty aspects of his mother & her (now 2nd ex) husband.

So now I'm trying to get him to see the "other side" of life without actually handing it to him. We'll see if he's smart enough to go where he's pushed.

[NEMESIS]

I am sure you have seen that ad about kids watching the parents. Where the old man is cracking Mum, and the kid is there having a shot too? Thats pretty accurate (disturbingly so). The kids are just what values we pass on.

Damn right, kids watch & learn.

My ex-wife left me before my son was born. (hence he has never lived with me). The guy she married treated him & his older sister like someone elses kids. They both grew up in a really shitty, low income, relatively violent neighbourhood.
AND the ex did everything she could to keep them away from me.
I have only been in contact with my 2 oldest kids for the last 11mths, after not seeing my oldest for 18yrs & never having seen my son.
My daughter has grown up with an amazing attitude to life & other people considering the growing environment, but my son has taken on all the shitty aspects of his mother & her (now 2nd ex) husband.

So now I'm trying to get him to see the "other side" of life without actually handing it to him. We'll see if he's smart enough to go where he's pushed.

Im sorry for what its worth brother.
Mate im lucky to have notbad parents.
Ive noticed with people,well funnily enough,x girlfreinds,
the apple never falls far from the tree...
You look at there parental status
an whats happend etc an i think you get a pretty
good indication of what it could be like most of time.
Not all of the time,but most.
Thats just my opinion though...
You notice what sort of morals they have an whatnot.

[Louwai]

Im sorry for what its worth brother.
Mate im lucky to have notbad parents.
Ive noticed with people,well funnily enough,x girlfreinds,
the apple never falls far from the tree...
You look at there parental status
an whats happend etc an i think you get a pretty
good indication of what it could be like most of time.

Man, don't be sorry. That's life.
The ex talked the oldest girl into getting a credit card when she was 18. Then the ex went & filled it up leaving her daughter with the bill.
Absolute f*&^ing bitch.
The daughter is now bankrupt because of that. So now she's f****d for life. That banckruptcy tag is with her for life. It will be a major issue when she's older & tries to get a loan for anything.

The ex & I were divorced for 17yrs when I finally sold the "marital" home. That stupid bitch though that the settlement all those years ago was just a goodwill payment & she would get 50% of the money when I sold it. Didn't she get a big f*&^ing surprise!!!!!!

My ex is the classic dole bludger. She will tell anybody any hardluck bullshit story she can think of to get them to give her money.
And unfortunately, the son has picked that up from her.

My daughter has been screwed over by her mum, but she has none of the crap attitude. I offer to put fuel in her car & she refuses. She'd rather walk than take money.
She's 21 now & she can clearly see what her mum is & has no intention of going there.

And you know what the best bit is....... The ex originally left me because of my pretty low income. Not enough money for her to spend.
Since she left me I have bought 5 houses, visited 19 other countries & I earn 10 times what she does.
And man do I love shoving that in her face.......

[BUSGO]

I had an ex like that once too...


snicker. snicker.

Unfortunately she has passed on her feral lifestyle to my eldest who I also had no contact with for 18 years.
My daughter now tries hard but can't get out of the habit.

[Busanthony]

I had an ex like that once too...


this is all pretty sad...

[Louwai]

Hey! I work 3 jobs! YEAH, 3 jobs. Tax man loves me. I'm one of those people who can go to the tax office, drop me pants and grab my ankles, cause no matter what i try, tax wise i'm gettin screwed.

So what am i complainin about.... urine tests. I HATE TESTS!

Geoff I agree. I hate the tests. BUT working in construction I'm happy to comply.
I wouldn't want to be working on a site with a 300t crane being operated by some prick who was half stoned. That's just downright deadly........ for me, not the prick driving...... it's not too often that a stray crane load falls on the operators cabin.

[GlenTC]

Pucka as in puckapaniel?
Gone toorak on me bloke?

Cockerspaniel. Yep, up there in the heartland of the open hand.

Toorak? A bloke can't wear his winter coat all year around. The uggies don't go well with the budgie smugglers and dirty t-shirt.

[mr magoo]

christ you people have to much time on your hands,get back to work,i need a pay rise. you think you have problems,my bong is empty, their is no bourbon left,i can't even afford mc donalds for brikkie and have to wait another two weeks before i get paid again.its bullshite i should be paid every week.