A BKing for daily rider?

[serious groper]

Hi Guys, been reading on here for a little bit. Love the Busa's!

Any Bking owners on here?

Right now i have a VTR1000 for my daily riding and an MV Agusta F4 for weekends. I'm thinking of selling both and getting a BK instead to do everything.

Can the Busa's and BK's handle 25,000km-30,000km/yr without any drama's? How do tyre's fair given the weight based on 'mild' riding?

How many kms until a rebuild/major work needs to be done?

Should i stick with 2 bikes and halve the mileage between the 2? I do that right now but it sucks having an MV in the garage for 5 days a week. I know some here have put a LOT of kms on their bikes, just wondering if it's worth the cost? If i could buy a new bike which would last me 120,000kms i'd be there in a flash.

[Dan85]

mate a new busa well maintained and looked after will see 120,000kms without rebuilding anything. if you want to do alot of k's the busa is the bike for you. the bking is the same id imagine its just a busa they forgot to finish

[BUSGO]

Q1. Shit yeah.
Q2. Shit yeah.
Q3. Well over 100,000.
Q4. No.
Q5. Buy 1 busa or 1 bking.

Both ideal for what you want.

Tyres last about 10,000 if ridden mildly.

[serious groper]

Cheers Dan. I love the Busa's but i want an upright seating position to save my wrists and back on longish rides.

The BK seemed like a good choice next to a Busa as i assume it's pretty much the same thing --> just not finished :)

Ugly pipes but i'd slap a set of carbon Yoshi's on and it considerably improves the look.

[pan]

Cheers Dan. I love the Busa's but i want an upright seating position to save my wrists and back on longish rides.

The BK seemed like a good choice next to a Busa as i assume it's pretty much the same thing --> just not finished :)

Ugly pipes but i'd slap a set of carbon Yoshi's on and it considerably improves the look.

Ride both of them and you'll find they are very different. The Busa has waaaaaaaaaay more grunt, especially at higher revs.

You can always try a Busa with bar risers for comfort... ah, so many choices!

[bassmaniac69]

Hmm, I just had to make the same decision myself - Busa or B king??

I've just come off an 03 Z1000 and am noticing the difference in positions. The B king was very similar to the Z but that said the Busa is not that bad as I thought it would be. Still, the Bking is more upright which is what you are after.

What swayed it for me was the fuel consumption and the pillion accomodation - both bad on the king compared to the busa. I'm pretty much a daily rider as well and wanted something that I didn't have to fill up each week!

My seat of the pants dyno preferred the B king in rawness, and grunt, but I'm loving the busa and don't regret the choice at all. (Well, maybe just a a little bit!)

While you are looking at exhausts check out the Bodis pipes - I reckon they suit a Bking more than the Yoshis!

[davegc]

My personal opinion is the B-King makes for a better "around town" bike. However, these "long rides" you are talking about might be an issue on the unfaired B-King if high speeds are involved, at which point the Busa might be better.

The power delivery is a little different, the B-King is smoother, and feels more torquey. It does not feel less powerful than a Busa, although a dragstrip/dyno will show it has less outright HP stock, the lack of ram air on the B-King possibly one reason. Splitting hairs here though, both of them are insanely fast.

The braking, handling etc on the B-King are the equal of the Busa, and for me, I find the B-King easier to go fast on in all situations other than 200kmh plus (and I don't think that should be a major consideration really these days). Pillion wise the B-King is lacking compared to the Busa with its small seat, if that is an issue for you.

Fuel range, Busa has 25% more tank size.

Tyres would be between 1000kms, and 10,000kms depending on tyre and riding style, be the same on either.

Mechanical reliability the 2 will be the same, sharing same engine etc. Overall all model Busa/Bkings are extremely good reliability and longetivity wise.

Beware of opinions from people who haven't ridden a B-King, its one thing to judge something on looks or what they read in a magazine, another entirely to ride it.

Even those who prefer the Busa, would admit the B-King is a very nice thing indeed to ride.

Ride both, buy the one that you like. Can't go too wrong with either.

[Volvi]

The busa engine has proved its reliability and longevity. Some have said thats a bullet proof engine. Ppl who check theyre shims even at 100.000 say theyre well within specs. Those who have had busas with 100k+ swear theyre as good as new if not even better. I dont know how many bikes on the market have the same reputation.

PS. Believe it or not in my opinion the busas arnt fully run in till after 30.000, at least Gen.1 bikes dunno about Gen.2. Busas are the sort of bike you can well keep 10+ years with high mileage. Mines already 9 trouble free years old. One hellofa bike.

[SteveV]

There might not be much in it in terms of tech specs, but from my point of view the BKing is a funny looking robot thing compared to the busa which is just sheer style. Dont particularly like the look of the VMax either, which looks similar, especially for $10K+ extra. I thought the riding position of the busa would be a problem too but its really quite comfortable when you get used to it, and I used to ride a bike with a seat the size of a beanbag.

[spamanglenn]

youve gotta consider the rides you do and the gap between fuel stops.If your into the throttle a busa or b king can use 12L/100kms.I think the b kings tank is 16 or 18 litres so your looking at 120-140k range if your really into it.If your just cruising its more like 5.5L/100kms.

[serious groper]

I took the BK out for a burn the other week and loved it. Insanely fast. Very happy to cruise at low speeds. Very happy to throw the hammer down. I'm after something with lots of torque down low. If you don't have to go searching for power, you don't ride anywhere near as fast.

My Firestorm is great, low down power makes life easy in traffic and makes weekend riding loads of fun as you don't have to worry about gear changes or revs. My MV on the other hand needs to be wrung out and ridden like a mentalist. To feel any real power you are already well into triple digits, anything less ie below 8000rpm and there's not much. I speed way to much on the MV in order to get the thrills.

Tank capacity is 16.5L on the BK. The Firestorm is 15L (99 model). I get around 8.5L/100km in peak hour riding, fill up roughly every 140km. Freeway will get me 200km from a tank. I'm not to fussed about the BK's small tank. Sure i'd like bigger but i think it will be ok providing i get the same 8.5L/100km in peak hour (eg M2 motorway in Sydney, not stop/start). I don't pillion, bought my wife her own bike instead. I prefer it just being me on my bike.

I like the reliability factor. I told my wife the Busa guys get waaaaay up there in kms and love their bikes. I'd love to get a BK and keep it in the garage for a long time to come. I'll take a Busa for a burn before i decide if i buy the BK.

I've ridden the Tuono, Z1000, FZ1N over the past few weeks but whilst i loved the FZ1 the most, it's looks were to sedate. I couldn't see me looking to keep it in the long term.

[kawasuki]

should try a busa with heli bars on it.

[Dan85]

from my discusions with a suzuki sales rep the Bking is down about 10hp peak but up in the midrange compared to a new busa which i assume is all just a tuning issue. he also said the Bking uses the gen1 gears rather than the gears out of a new busa which he said was slightly better suited to the midrange power rather than a big top end rush. having said that ive riden with a bking and its one of those so close it depends on the rider sorta thing untill you hit about the 150-160 mark where the busa start to push past the bking and from 200 on its pretty much all over for the bking but really where u gonna do that sorta speed

[pan]

from my discusions with a suzuki sales rep the Bking is down about 10hp peak but up in the midrange compared to a new busa which i assume is all just a tuning issue. he also said the Bking uses the gen1 gears rather than the gears out of a new busa which he said was slightly better suited to the midrange power rather than a big top end rush. having said that ive riden with a bking and its one of those so close it depends on the rider sorta thing untill you hit about the 150-160 mark where the busa start to push past the bking and from 200 on its pretty much all over for the bking but really where u gonna do that sorta speed

10HP doesn't sound like much, does it, but it makes a huge difference on a track day...

I did that TV thing with my Busa and the B-King. The guy riding the B-King was a better rider than I was, but he couldn't even stay near me on the track at any speed above 150km/h. Chalk and Cheese!

I'd still love a B-King though

[DAD]

This is my 2 bobs worth I havent had a ride on a Bking but I have owned a speed triple and what you will find is that not having a fairing is ok for a while but at high speed or riding in a head wind it becomes very tireing and down right annoying. If I were you I would get a Busa and get a set of heli bars off Kawasucki [ dont forget my cut Ray LOL] and you will be laughing. I did have a 07 Busa with heli bars and sold it to get the Triumph speed triple and that was a big mistake. Im riding a GSXR 1000 now with heli bars [thanks Ray] and it is so nice having a fairing. The busa is very comfy with the heli bars 5 hour rides + no probs the engine is a low rever also and its good on fuel and you can tuck in behind the screen if need be like last Saturday I rode 2 and a bit hours to John Hunter hospital to see my father in law and the wind was unreal I thought im glad im not on a naked bike.