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**fasterfaster** · 18-09-2009, 08:34pm

Don't believe it was a cam chain lubrication issue either ? Idiot2

The auto tensioners were failing allowing cam chain slack and bending valves. They then did the recall and fitted them with modified hydraulic over manual tensioners hence the oil line to the tensioner being added. (There were actually 5 different tensioners used before they got it right)
Good old Spewzuki Pi_thumbsup

**BUSGO** · 18-09-2009, 09:28pm

What I was suggesting is that it may have had a failure due to the problem and therefore had the engine removed to fix it.

**jamesallan** · 18-09-2009, 09:53pm

Thanks Ray,

It is a mystery, I finally rang the previous owner back and he was quite defensive and stated that he had never had the fairings off himself. Passed it over to the suzuki dealer and I checked with them. Apparently all recalls carried out at servicing with no engine removal or adjustments. Also he dropped it at slow sppeed, suzuki did all the repairs and the claim is no mention as it was paint work only.
Crack was either from factory or when dropped however no bugger has ever noticed it - go figure.

have made a lot of calls on this and hang on tight ##### got a price too on a new frame as they are still available.

Wait for it ******** retail $5,890.00 yowza that is steep

Going to strip the bike further this weekend and look for any other signs of impact that may have caused it. Apart from that need to locate a good welder in Sydney that will do it without fully stripping it down to the frame only.

Chers to Bruce and Fasterfaster great info i have learnt stacks this week.
Maybe a CSI Miami case to really sort it out however I am confident that it is only a one of incident and the frame will be as new after a repair.

Cheers James

19-09-2009, 05:53am

(18-09-2009, 09:53pm)jamesallan Wrote: Thanks Ray,

It is a mystery, I finally rang the previous owner back and he was quite defensive and stated that he had never had the fairings off himself. Passed it over to the suzuki dealer and I checked with them. Apparently all recalls carried out at servicing with no engine removal or adjustments. Also he dropped it at slow sppeed, suzuki did all the repairs and the claim is no mention as it was paint work only.
Crack was either from factory or when dropped however no bugger has ever noticed it - go figure.

have made a lot of calls on this and hang on tight ##### got a price too on a new frame as they are still available.

Wait for it ******** retail $5,890.00 yowza that is steep

Going to strip the bike further this weekend and look for any other signs of impact that may have caused it. Apart from that need to locate a good welder in Sydney that will do it without fully stripping it down to the frame only.

Chers to Bruce and Fasterfaster great info i have learnt stacks this week.
Maybe a CSI Miami case to really sort it out however I am confident that it is only a one of incident and the frame will be as new after a repair.

Cheers James

I would seriously chase this up with suzuki.Im not convinced that it "will be as new after a repair",after all It is a crack running horizontally and a write off for that matter.be safe dude

**jamesallan** · 19-09-2009, 10:16am

(19-09-2009, 05:53am)1300hayabusa Wrote:
(18-09-2009, 09:53pm)jamesallan Wrote: Thanks Ray,

It is a mystery, I finally rang the previous owner back and he was quite defensive and stated that he had never had the fairings off himself. Passed it over to the suzuki dealer and I checked with them. Apparently all recalls carried out at servicing with no engine removal or adjustments. Also he dropped it at slow sppeed, suzuki did all the repairs and the claim is no mention as it was paint work only.
Crack was either from factory or when dropped however no bugger has ever noticed it - go figure.

have made a lot of calls on this and hang on tight ##### got a price too on a new frame as they are still available.

Wait for it ******** retail $5,890.00 yowza that is steep

Going to strip the bike further this weekend and look for any other signs of impact that may have caused it. Apart from that need to locate a good welder in Sydney that will do it without fully stripping it down to the frame only.

Chers to Bruce and Fasterfaster great info i have learnt stacks this week.
Maybe a CSI Miami case to really sort it out however I am confident that it is only a one of incident and the frame will be as new after a repair.

Cheers James

I would seriously chase this up with suzuki.Im not convinced that it "will be as new after a repair",after all It is a crack running horizontally and a write off for that matter.be safe dude

Thanks 1300hayabusa

i am having a good think about my options on this one, lucky i have an 09 to ride while I decide. May have to make a crazy offer of $1,000 bucks for the new frame then I would be a happy camper.
Appreciate you thoughts.

20-09-2009, 06:40am

(19-09-2009, 10:16am)jamesallan Wrote:
(19-09-2009, 05:53am)1300hayabusa Wrote:
(18-09-2009, 09:53pm)jamesallan Wrote: Thanks Ray,

It is a mystery, I finally rang the previous owner back and he was quite defensive and stated that he had never had the fairings off himself. Passed it over to the suzuki dealer and I checked with them. Apparently all recalls carried out at servicing with no engine removal or adjustments. Also he dropped it at slow sppeed, suzuki did all the repairs and the claim is no mention as it was paint work only.
Crack was either from factory or when dropped however no bugger has ever noticed it - go figure.

have made a lot of calls on this and hang on tight ##### got a price too on a new frame as they are still available.

Wait for it ******** retail $5,890.00 yowza that is steep

Going to strip the bike further this weekend and look for any other signs of impact that may have caused it. Apart from that need to locate a good welder in Sydney that will do it without fully stripping it down to the frame only.

Chers to Bruce and Fasterfaster great info i have learnt stacks this week.
Maybe a CSI Miami case to really sort it out however I am confident that it is only a one of incident and the frame will be as new after a repair.

Cheers James

I would seriously chase this up with suzuki.Im not convinced that it "will be as new after a repair",after all It is a crack running horizontally and a write off for that matter.be safe dude

Thanks 1300hayabusa

i am having a good think about my options on this one, lucky i have an 09 to ride while I decide. May have to make a crazy offer of $1,000 bucks for the new frame then I would be a happy camper.
Appreciate you thoughts.

I sold an 03 frame for the same ammount of money and it was not on any kind of register.I believe its a better option than taking chances imo

**lee8sec** · 20-09-2009, 07:35am

This is the only place in sydney i would take it to for advise or repair. Leigh
Laurie Alderton

2/ 10 Long St
Smithfield

Ph: 02 9609 2889

**Maj** · 20-09-2009, 09:37am

I agree, a good secondhand frame would be preferrable to any repairs in that area.
A , its going to look bad whatever you do and
B , the frame will be weakened by welding (maybe not as weak as the crack ;) )
C , legality of such repairs and future liability to either yourself or the repairer

**jamesallan** · 22-09-2009, 08:35pm

(20-09-2009, 09:37am)Maj Wrote: I agree, a good secondhand frame would be preferrable to any repairs in that area.
A , its going to look bad whatever you do and
B , the frame will be weakened by welding (maybe not as weak as the crack ;) )
C , legality of such repairs and future liability to either yourself or the repairer

Cheers Maj, i have got my work cut out so it seems on this one. Appreciate your comments.

James

**drworm** · 22-09-2009, 09:27pm

I am sure that after welding the frame at the factory it then undergoes a stress relief and heat treatment process. This would need to be considered if you decide to go down the welding route, which FWIW I would steer clear of.

**jamesallan** · 23-09-2009, 11:49am

(22-09-2009, 09:27pm)drworm Wrote: I am sure that after welding the frame at the factory it then undergoes a stress relief and heat treatment process. This would need to be considered if you decide to go down the welding route, which FWIW I would steer clear of.

Thanks Drworm, I have a guy that suggested the same to mme if he was to weld it and that it would take a couple of days to do before he would be happy. Again that means a full strip down of the bike.

Certainly seems to indicate after much research that the enginge adjuster/mount for whatever reason has been incorrectly or over tightened.
Says a lot for some dealerships and the quality of workmanship as this bike has never had the covers removed by the previous owner.

**steventh** · 23-09-2009, 12:20pm

Mate, Agree with Mag, get a second hand frame.

I wouldn't touch a bike with a welded frame - no matter who did the welding or how many engineer certificates it had.

Cheers

Steven

**drworm** · 23-09-2009, 03:58pm

Something else to consider is the crack has seemingly appeared from nowhere. If you were to fix this crack, who's to say another crack wont appear somewhere else?
Definitely keep your eyes peeled for a frame.
All the best.

**Ruffy** · (This post was last modified: 23-09-2009, 04:17pm by Ruffy.)

I don't know of too many busa owners esp Gen 1's who haven't had the fairings off for maintanence etc - coupled with the fact that you said he was "defensive" when you asked him about it? He knows more than he's telling you mate and it may be the reason he sold it.

In the end you are better off getting another frame and doing a full conversion from the ground up so you know that everything is good and you have done it yourself so it's been done right.

You don't want that crack or the weld that "fixed" it to come back and bite you on a ride one day.

My 2 cents.

Cheers Ruffy

Camel · 25-09-2009, 06:29am

If you're stuck for a frame, I've got a spare.

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