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Read threads on afew different motorcycle forums around the world about this, then realised I don't even know what the legal status is if you get caught lane splitting in NSW. I remember when I did my test (late 70's) you were told to never do it. I know in Victoria the official stance is you can when the traffic's stationary (I think??) I saw a bloke on a Gixxer Thou get pulled up by a cockroach the other day while lane splitting on Great Western Hwy. He was really riding very conservatively and split between stationary traffic. So come on guys. What's your understanding of where we stand as far as lane splitting goes? Particularly in NSW. 
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In NSW, you are NOT allowed to overtake another vehicle on the left side while sharing a lane.
You can pass stationary traffic but must stop on the driver's side of the vehicle, only if there is room.
A cop will ping you for anything that looks vaguely dangerous.
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BUSGO Wrote:In NSW, you are NOT allowed to overtake another vehicle on the left side while sharing a lane.
You can pass stationary traffic but must stop on the driver's side of the vehicle, only if there is room.
A cop will ping you for anything that looks vaguely dangerous.
Thanks Busgo,
Suspected that was the case. The bloke I saw was very conservative and navigating traffic banked up because of a breakdown miles up the road. My experience is that you get pinged if the coppers have even a remote reason to pull you up. Just can't get à m to act when the cyclist is the victim.  Oh well. Too old and pigheaded to stop riding now. (Not to mention I have a shiny new 'Busa!!) 
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I just found an old thread on this forum from 2005 about lane splitting when they were trying to re-inforce it's illegitimacy. Even then there is a note saying that riders concerns fall on deaf ears. The more things change the more they stay the same! I reckon I've saved my own arse 5 dozen times by shooting between cars as some fwit in a cage locks them up and skates over the spot where I was seconds before.
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Biggest problem that I have is the "L" platers doing it cause they see everyone else doing it. Only thing is they're doing about 50k's up the middle. No chance of stopping or avoiding a car changing lanes.
On their "L's" they don't yet have the knowledge or forward thinking or experience that the more experienced riders have.
How many of you can tell when a car is about to change lanes before it actually does??? What are the key indicators that tell you they are going to do it????
Ask an L plater those 2 questions & I bet they wouldn't know what you're talking about.
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If you state that you were only passing cars whilst stationary on your left side, ie you overtook cars yet stayed on the same lane, I believe they cant do you for that. But if you admit or seen to be overtaking cars on their inside ie. on the left side of the cars in his lane, then your breaking the law. So point to remember is I was only overtaking cars in my own lane whilst they were stationary.
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If there is any ambiguity a magistrate will more likely than not, favour a cops version of events over yours.
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Gnarbunkle99 Wrote:If there is any ambiguity a magistrate will more likely than not, favour a cops version of events over yours.
Ain't that always the way.
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I've been done for it a few times whilst living and commuting in Sydney.
I work on the following basis, it's pretty hard for them to catch you so most of the time they won't even try.
When they do and they catch you, be pleasant to them and cop the $70 no points fine, and agree with them that it is dangerous.
Then when when they say will you do it again, laugh and say what would you do?, it saves me at least an hour in the traffic each day and costs not much more than those bloody parking fines you also get in the city. It's just part of the costs of commuting.
Then ride off, not lane splitting . . .until you're out of sight.
- don't know if fines are more now, this was 4 years ago.
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+1 Ward. I believe it's so much safer for us. get away from the traffic flow - leave it behind you, don't catch the lunatics in front of you, until they have stopped and do the same again. It gets us away from the melee of vehicles, all changing lanes - lots without indicating, leaving us in the clear with little or no traffic around us.
Gotta be happy with that.
It's illegal here in Canberra, but it's only the odd occasional copper who is having a crap day, who is going to have a go at you. Or a Traffic Copper - they just plain hate all of us equally 
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Question??
If he asks you about what you did, and he didn't "caution" you "that you are not obliged to say or do anything, but anything you say or do may be given in evidence. Do you understand?"
Can you take it to court and have anything you did say ruled as inadmissable evidence?
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Busdriver Wrote:Question??
If he asks you about what you did, and he didn't "caution" you "that you are not obliged to say or do anything, but anything you say or do may be given in evidence. Do you understand?"
Can you take it to court and have anything you did say ruled as inadmissable evidence?
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Strict and absolute liability mate. In traffic matters there is no caution required.
Whether there is a progressive increase in the burdon placed on the copper by the seriousness of the traffic offence and the proofs required for a successful proxsecution, I don't know. Where there are deaths involved I daresay there will be a provision to insert a caution.
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