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**Louwai** · 29-09-2007, 09:18pm

Just getting a little pedantic here.
I notice that a lot of people refer to the Hayabusa Japanese character as "Kanji" or "The Kanji".

There are 3 Japanese written languages.
Hirogana, Katakana & Kanji. The first 2 being the ancient & modern traditional languages & Kanji (I'm told) was delevoped to account for all those "western" words that the first 2 didn't include.

So I'm guessing the Hayabusa symbol is a Kanji language character.

But does anyone know what the actual character is called????

I know a little Chinese but I'm stuffed when it comes to Japanese....

**Busdriver** · 29-09-2007, 09:39pm

I believe it is kanji.

I have a Japanese friend who told me the symbol is actually Japanese for hayabusa.

Good to know huh?

**Louwai** · (This post was last modified: 29-09-2007, 09:58pm by Louwai.)

Yeah, that's what I've heard. But my limited knowledge of Japanese tells me that 1 character can't be a word as long as Hayabusa.
Even "Tokyo" is 2 characters.

Adding to that, the Kanji language is supposed to be the language to account for all the 'foreign' words that the other 2 traditional ones miss out.
If 'Hayabusa' is a Japanese mythical bird (which again I've been told but don't know for sure) I would expect the relavent character to be from either of the other 2 languages.

But, I'm guessing a Japanese person would know better than I would.........

29-09-2007, 10:20pm

Hiragana is the Traditional Japanese alphabet used for Japanese words
Katakana is the alphabet used to spell non Japanese (typically western) words.

Kanji are the Chinese idiograms (picture words) that are used in every day spelling to depict whole words or phrases.
There are over 4000 kanji characters in use in Japan today, with most Japanese not knowing them all.

29-09-2007, 10:39pm

Kanji from Japan= "STRONG AND FAST" translation

29-09-2007, 10:56pm

Yup its Kanji for Hayabusa which as everybody knows is the apex predator in the bird world in Japan. Suzuki bought out the Hayabusa to kill off the Honda Blackbird. Have a look for trouble in Kanji, its actually the symbol for 2 women in the same house (i think)

**Louwai** · 30-09-2007, 06:33am

Cool. I fugured someone would know....

**TimF** · 30-09-2007, 06:48am

Interesting thread.

I've often heard that the symbol/Hayabusa refer to the Peregerine Falcon, which can do over 300kph in it's hunting dive.

What evidence was this based on? Probably nothing.

**BUSGO** · 30-09-2007, 08:06am

Yes the last one is correct.
The Kanji SYMBOL on the busa stands for Hayabusa which is Japanese for Peregrine Falcon and NOT Strong and Fast as some people think.

The Japanese have used the falcon's name for a number of fast vehicles.
There is a Japanese satellite called Hayabusa, a Japanese Warplane from WWII and now the infamous HAYABUSA GSX1300R....

30-09-2007, 08:18am

Let me clarify, FAST and Strong is Hayabusa 's meaning! literal translation ! yes it is named after a peregrin falcon, which is named after= Fast and strong"Hayabusa", also Japan has a fastest train named Hayabusa, a space satelite named Hayabusa, Suzuki Bike= hayabusa, Hayabusa is fast and strong! the bird!

**Slowdownjack** · 30-09-2007, 08:33am

Go to Wikipedia.com folks type in kanji & all will be revealed.At least i hope the info is right because my tat is based on that what i found !

**Astro** · (This post was last modified: 30-09-2007, 11:39am by Astro.)

You're both right. All Kanji symbols have both a literal and an associative meaning. They are pictograms - so the visual cues are used to depict a concept. As in the example from MrsTonysEvilTwin. The literal translation is 'two women, one domain", the associative meaning (as in, how its read in a sentance) is either Trouble or Conflict depending on how its used. The Hayabusa symbol is the combination of the pictograms for fast and strong and the everyday literal reading of the symbol is 'Hayabusa'. If you wanted to say the sentance "Fast and strong" you wouldn't use the symbol for Hayabusa, you'd use the symbols for fast and strong and you'd add an inflective 'swish' to the first symbol to imply 'and'.

Our culture has similar symbols. For example, the skull and crossbones. You can either read it literally as 'skull and crossbones' or you can instantly recognise it's associative meaning of Deadly Danger.

**Volvi** · 30-09-2007, 06:02pm

I had an old war horse look at my bike eyes wide open and mouth agape saying "I used to shoot at them buggers in the war" Japs had a fighter plane named Hayabusa.

30-09-2007, 06:32pm

I thought it meant 2 x sushi rolls - hold the wasabi

**Rev** · 30-09-2007, 10:05pm

Nakajima Ki 43 III A Hayabusa "Oscar" Fighter/Bomber

Engine: Ha 25/99 14 cylinder double radial.
Horsepower: 1230
Max speed: 500 kph
Cruise speed: 300 kph

PS: Never fly the A model of anything Very Happy

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